Obverse reads: -
BEAR US IN MIND
S. M. WISE GROCER & MEAT MARKET FAIRMONT, W. VA.
Bryan R. rebutted my discussion about the Leyse company making encased. He furnished me with an image of a newspaper article that shows that Leyse in 1968 at least made commemorative coins. Further he emailed with Jim who wrote the definitive book on Wisconsin encased.
THIS / SIDE OF THIS / AVAILABLE FOR / YOUR PREMIUM OFFER / WRITE / LEYSE ALUMINUM CO. / KEWAUNEE, WIS.
Sample die from Leyse Aluminum Co.
Then I got an email from Roger P. - He sent me the image of the Leyse Aluminum die. I don't know where the image comes from or if he owns it, but it certainly make the case for Leyse Aluminum in Kewaunee, WI making aluminum coins or tags. This die is NOT for encased as there is no space in the middle to hold the coin. (See my article on encased dies, to see the difference.) I can't argue with this die. But I didn't win the sample boxes and can not compare the reverse of the included to samples of this die. Anyone have a sample box for the Kewaunee Line?
I can't argue with the fact that Leyse made commemorative coins and according to Jim S. they made encased. Since Jim wrote the book about Wisconsin encased he is the authority. I contacted Metalkraft (now Metalcraft) asking it they made or make encased coins. They currently make challenge coins and medals. So anything is possible. It is interesting to verify that Leyse made encased coins. Did they use the "Kewaunee Line" as their samples? Time will tell. Were there two encased coin manufacturers in Kewaunee, Wi.? The "Star" encased that I featured at the bottom of the Kewaunee Line page has a smooth face with no denticles around the edge. Reminds me of the "Victory" encased that I call type 2 obverse. "There Is No Substitute For Veterinary Service" reverse has no denticles on either side, but the Type Ones have denticles on both sides.
Paul replied to my questions about eBay seller using "rare": "I think everything on eBay is listed as rare and or vintage. Same in watches for ones where they made over one hundred thousand."
Regarding storage Paul offered:
I use the archival quality flips for all my encased.. You can see the entire piece and they fit things like the Wisconsin state shape pieces. Folded with the pocket to the inside, they seem very secure, and you can remove the piece easily if need be. I do not staple them at all, which I think is a big plus.
Bob F. responded to the eBay question with;
I, too, have been dismayed by the number of sellers who set a $9.99 minimum asking price on eBay. He also shared a strategy he uses with sellers who receive no bids, but I don't want to give away something that he uses that has worked for him at least three times.
I am going to be bidding on one encased tomorrow that has postage at $5.55 - Hate that but really would like to have the item. (I have encountered this problem myself. My only response is to figure the shipping into the maximum price I will pay and if I win I give the seller the lowest possible score on shipping and postage. - Bruce)
Bob F. responded to the ECI comment with: "You mentioned ECI but how about its predecessor, ACE, Associated Collectors of Encased? They had a project to issue state catalogs and were making good headway when everything stopped. Can't remember who ran it, but maybe he stopped also, if you know what I mean. Does anyone have the files of those state catalogs? I have looked in my archives and cannot find them. They would be a fantastic addition to the website."
Rick L sent me this comment:
Hi! I was pleasantly excited when I stumbled across the encasedcoins.info website. I am a long-time numismatist and have collected encased for about the last 7-8 years. Please also add me to the 'Encased Collectors' Email list. I am very interested in receiving these newsletters. I of course added him to the newsletter list. I know that there are lots of collectors out there. Reach out to those you know and forward a copy of the newsletter to them. -Bruce
I noted your comment on ECI in Newsletter #4. I became interested in encased coins through that site, and I, too, was sad to see it disappear. I was unaware that it had disappeared until I looked for it one day and couldn't find it. I was fortunate to find the checklists on an Internet archive site and was able to download them. Let me know if they would be of any interest to anybody, many people probably already have them.
Speaking of ECI - I just bought 59 Houlton High encased from Cecil Starcher's collection. There will be a page about this soon as I receive the encased. More about that next issue.
However I also was pointed to the Wayback machine. Reader Fred L. reminded me of the site and provided a link. Here is a link directly to the archive of the ECI site. http://web.archive.org/web/~ encasedcollectorsinternational.org I have begun coping the base information, article about various encased and the lists. If you contributed to the ECI site and Do Not want me to use the information you provided let me know. I intend to give full credit to Cecil, ECI, and the author of any list or article. If you had a list or article and have updated it please furnish a copy so I can post an updated article.list. If you prefer to control your copy/work I understand. I am willing to post a contact me (BDP) and forward request to you to answer. In absence of any reply I will post ECI material with full credit and a disclaimer offering to remove the material if the author can provide me with proof of their work, if not attributed on the ECI site to them.
Bob F. Sent me this:
You mentioned ECI but how about its predecessor, ACE, Associated Collectors of Encased? They had a project to issue state catalogs and were making good headway when everything stopped. Cant remember who ran it, but maybe he stopped also, if you know what I mean. Does anyone have the files of those state catalogs? I have looked in my archives and cannot find them. They would be a fantastic addition to the website. c
That's it for this week. I am looking forward to hearing from everyone. I hope your holidays so far have been great!